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Seniors berates his sons on television now that they don't have television time to respond. 



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There might still be jabs coming from OCC, Jr pissed off most of the guys that were working there. So I can hear some background noise including christian,mike, and steve, but sr knows how bad that hurt his image and doubt he goes there unless sr the actor is directed to go there. He might laugh, or add in, but maybe when sr shows he is past this you can also move on.

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How could anyone of Seniors employees look at Paul Jr an blame their misfortune on the fact Junior left.  Really it was nothing he did that pushed him out the door.  Senior an his actions pushed him out the door.



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How could anyone of Seniors employees look at Paul Jr an blame their misfortune on the fact Junior left.  Really it was nothing he did that pushed him out the door.  Senior an his actions pushed him out the door.


 Just saying that most of the jabs against jr were started by the guys, not senior. Senior joined in laughing, when he probably should have said, hey thats my son. 

When both shops got together to discuss doing a bike between them, the occ crew were not at all excited to be part of it. Thats all I am saying.



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Oh, I understand it.  And to say that Vinnie and Cody do not have harsh feelings about members of the O.C.C.  And parts of Seniors crew have the same despise.  But 5 years is pushing nearly insanity to hold bad blood by repeating the same hostile behaviors against nearly what one person(s) would consider family members. 



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I can see where past employees of OCC could be frustrated with Junior. Senior did say that when Junior walked off the job, that the result was that other workers had to be laid off.

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Junior had valid reasons.  After all it was Senior that drove Paulie out of the business, by not being acceptive of the what his son needed to keep his creativity on or above par.  After all, he just wanted time to enjoy Racheal an the fruits of his success..   Senior couldn't accept that way causing Paulie to leave an strike out on his own.  

 

Isn't that a father wants out of a son is to finally fly out of the nest an successfully fly on his own.



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Even if Junior had valid reasons, I do not feel it is honourable to walk off a job while you are directly involved on current projects and future projects without sufficient notice. If one does so, it is not fair to the company that gave you the job and sure not fair to your co workers who now not only have to do their own job but now have to do yours also.

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Let's say that the Teutels were not on a TV program with directors, crew and script. Let's say they were what they and everybody that knew them said they were; a very volatile family. Apparently their mom and the daughter had their moments also.

The thing is that Sr had got to mid life and his son had eclipsed him. When they had build offs the crowds picked Jr bikes, Jr had the talent to make their bikes different. And in the "original" history it was Jr that opted for theme bikes rather than rehab junk yard bikes.

Sr was old school and wanted his son to be blue collar macho and that was not Jr. And Sr was somewhat ashamed of him because of this but Sr needed Jr because you can see what Sr can come up with. I wouldn't work in a place where I was being put down all the time; money or no. But Jr had put up with that all of his life, and he did fight back. To me I wouldn't hire employees and then make a fool out of myself in front of them but that's me.

ElG, you say it's bad to leave when you have commitments. In the real world those commitments should make both parties stop and think what they are doing. They had a lot to lose.

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Thats your choice, but nobody knows how much junior was being paid for all his aggravations. He had a pretty damn nice house I doubt he paid for by himself. You can give the kid the key to the kingdom, buy him every thing you never had, set up a business he can run for his life, but the kid still wants more.

They both knew how to push each others buttons. Jr needs prestige above all. Sr felt walked over for Jr to get it.

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Even if Junior had valid reasons, I do not feel it is honourable to walk off a job while you are directly involved on current projects and future projects without sufficient notice. If one does so, it is not fair to the company that gave you the job and sure not fair to your co workers who now not only have to do their own job but now have to do yours also.


 El  most likely that's what the channel wanted you to see... The ratings slumped an the falling out got what they wanted ratings..  It all in how they edited it.  An if he would've stayed on track, he would've lost racheal.... An now he has her an a shop of his own an money an time enouth to enjoy them both.



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