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I'd hate to see what his Toyota looks like jammed up the wahzoo with all that slighty tacky PJD bling.  With all the logos on the truck and now the interior, has to be a ghastly slight. 

Maybe ask, Timmy, you'd he'd love it.

From Vinnie's shop, DiMartino Motorsports, 469 State Route 17k,  Suite 3, Rock Tavern, NY

anotheridiot thinks not

What?!? Please show me anyone bragging about Sr's crap. Like I said, no one in here except you two even mentioned Sr's crap, because the thread is NOT ABOUT HIS CRAP.

What I see in this thread is Dahammer denying that this is Jr crap, and you trying the old slight of hand by trying to move the focus onto Sr's crap.

And you are always quick to point out Sr's crap anyway, so now you don't want Jr's crap pointed out?

Maribegood wrote:

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I have a question about the knives. Mind you most of my "knife" knowledge, pathetic as it is, revolves around kitchen/butchering knives. So this may be obvious, but I really don't know much about knives outside a food milleau.

Are Rick's knives just decorative, or do they have a practical purpose? I'm not snarking, truly curious here.

-- Edited by Maribegood on Sunday 14th of April 2013 07:49:55 PM

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 Mari,

That style of knife is mostly decorative. Built by the knifesmith more for the art, than for it's usefulness. For practical purposes, there are other blade shapes that do their individual jobs better. I suppose that someone with experience might be able to use it for skinning hides, but it would still be difficult to do a good job. For self defense; while you could probable get a few nasty slices in, you'd have better luck using the head of the railroad spike to pummel your opponent in the forehead.

Still, it would look cool sticking out of the top of your biker boot ........... right up until the cops slam your face into the hood of the cruiser as they cuff you for being stupid in public. 

I remember Senior being on Fox and Friends one morning, about six years ago. The topic was "OCC's success, and bringing manufacturing jobs back to America".  I remember his saying that there weren't manufacturers remaining in the United States who could produce the volumes of clothing and apparel necessary to meet the company's needs.  At that time, he spoke of starting his own company in the states, whose sole purpose would be the production of "good value and good quality specialty clothing".

That may have been where the relationship between he, and the Trump Consortium began.

AnitaLaLouise wrote:

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Um, Vinnie made the air cleaner. Rick made the knives. They live and work in the USA. The products they made are therefore made in the USA.

The stabbing was not wild at all.

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Oh my god. How high does that knee jerk when someone questions one of anotheridiot's wild guesses?

How is assuming exactly the same things about exactly the same products supposed to prove anything? You don't know who makes Vinnie's air cleaners any more than anybody else, except Vinnie and whatever company that he licensed the name to. (I can assume, too. Watch: Vinnie set up a sweatshop in his garage with hundreds of illegal aliens cranking out air cleaners on stolen waterjets. I know I'm right, no matter what anybody with common sense and a little knowledge of licensing says.)

At least I checked Vinnie's website first before spouting porcine ablution.

Besides, the point you're so valiantly defending is that the jurisdiction of a particular patch of real estate is all that matters when it comes to after-market motorcycle accessories, and even this bombshell of important information comes from the colon of anotheridiot, fercryinoutloud. Supposedly, Vinnie's hands are the only ones who touch those air filters, and Rick doesn't have any assistance whatsoever. They're all lone craftsmen, slaving away in the wee hours to hand-craft air filters you're not going to buy and knives you couldn't care less about, but by gawd, at least they're doing it on American soil.

Now I could point out - as others have attempted to - that certain walrus-faced cake-decoraters have utilized parts of unknown origin and nobody gave two hoots about it, nor should they. But Paulie was fired over SIX YEARS AGO, and has gone on with his life. Why can't you?

Don't like PJD parts and accessories? Don't buy them!

there is nothing mentioned in this thread about sr's crap fullofgasmonkey. It is about jr, rick and vinnie, which is why I commented on jr, rick and vinnie. Its people like you that bring senior up at all the inappropriate times and fuel the hatred on this board when people leave an opinion on the subject. You would think one in your position would know better and show more respect for this board.

rumple wrote:

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Now I could point out - as others have attempted to - that certain walrus-faced cake-decoraters have utilized parts of unknown origin and nobody gave two hoots about it, nor should they. But Paulie was fired over SIX YEARS AGO, and has gone on with his life. Why can't you?

Don't like PJD parts and accessories? Don't buy them!

-- Edited by rumple on Monday 15th of April 2013 11:13:04 AM

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Oh, the irony.

You have this firm belief that the people that trend towards a like of Junior style, that we are just mindless sheeple.  Farthest thing from it.  Certainly didn't care for last bike to much sameness that you've been commenting about even in the old forums.  Well I say on this one it was very pervalent.  But then he might have been working on budget.

AnitaLaLouise wrote:

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So basically Paulie designed giant PJD logos for your vehicle? They're hideous.

And WalMart is evil.

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 I don't see any PJD logs, except the little ones on the packaging. Overreacting, perhaps?

Where our focus should be is in the fact that no matter which shop's wares are displayed for sale, the problem is that we were all duped into allowing a "Service Economy" to supplant our own, "production/product based" economy.  Our last moment of glory lasted eight days, and began on July 16th, 1969, ending on July 24th.

Then Watergate, the Arab Oil Embargo, Inflation, Nixon's resignation, Disco, Gerald Ford, and worse, Jimmy Earl Carter (and that giant rabbit which chased him while fishing, and oh, yes, the "lust in his heart", not to mention the 444 day Iranian Hostage Crisis (plus George H.W. Bush and his midnight trip in an SR-71 to "negotiate"). The decade of the Seventies, and our attitudes of not caring about the quality of our product, attitudes that made many of us think that the world owed us a living (I was in that group), and our failure to realize just how damned good we actually had it, were the initial salvos/volleys which set us on the path of destruction that we so blindly followed.

WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE OF LAZINESS, COMPLACENCY, AND GREED, SHEER GREED!

I'd wholeheartedly support whichever of the companies sold an American made product that I was in need of.

While profit is important in the sales and development of any item, it's not the only consideration. These attitudes are not solely American, Canadian, or Mexican. I am friends with an Amateur Radio operator from Portugal, and he tells me that the citizens of the E.U. are fed up with having no options available other than those from companies selling Chinese goods.

The following video should be a must-see in American History classes in high schools nationwide:

THE RISE AND FALL OF THE ZENITH RADIO CORPORATION, Chicago, IL; produced by Douglas Harland

"We had the world by the ass, and allowed it to slip out of our hands, for nothing in exchange except for a bunch of cheap Chinese trinkets, and our souls"

AnitaLaLouise wrote:

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Vinnie makes Vinnie's air cleaners. We have seen Vinnie making Vinnie's air cleaners on videos he has posted. Rick tweeted pictures of himself making those knives.

Are you trying to claim that Jr made all those car accessories himself?

As to the rest of your rant, what? Believe me, the irony of your calling someone else knee jerk is not lost on me. I wasn't claiming or trying to claim any of those things. At all. And the funny thing is the whole thread is still here so anyone reading will know that you are just making things up. It never ceases to amaze me how some of you are so far up Jr's ass that no one can post that they don't like something of his without you flaming in and trying to change the subject to Sr's crap, or some other completely off topic point. Neither of us said that no one else ever touched anyone's stuff, you just made that up, I assume to try to make your point that Jr can do no wrong, and if he did then it is somehow someone else's fault (Sr! Vinnie!, Rick!).

Jr is not god. Sometimes his stuff sucks. Get over it.

 

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 Yes you do react with a knew jerk reaction. How is comparing Sr v Jr crap both made overseas off topic?? Stop the BS about Jr can do no wrong and that it's someone else fault. NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT. All this crap now just cause of a simple question, And that's different to Sr's crap made in China how? Some just want to fight I guess?

ghostmonkey wrote:

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AnitaLaLouise wrote:

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Vinnie makes Vinnie's air cleaners. We have seen Vinnie making Vinnie's air cleaners on videos he has posted. Rick tweeted pictures of himself making those knives.

Are you trying to claim that Jr made all those car accessories himself?

As to the rest of your rant, what? Believe me, the irony of your calling someone else knee jerk is not lost on me. I wasn't claiming or trying to claim any of those things. At all. And the funny thing is the whole thread is still here so anyone reading will know that you are just making things up. It never ceases to amaze me how some of you are so far up Jr's ass that no one can post that they don't like something of his without you flaming in and trying to change the subject to Sr's crap, or some other completely off topic point. Neither of us said that no one else ever touched anyone's stuff, you just made that up, I assume to try to make your point that Jr can do no wrong, and if he did then it is somehow someone else's fault (Sr! Vinnie!, Rick!).

Jr is not god. Sometimes his stuff sucks. Get over it.

 

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 Yes you do react with a knew jerk reaction. How is comparing Sr v Jr crap both made overseas off topic?? Stop the BS about Jr can do no wrong and that it's someone else fault. NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT. All this crap now just cause of a simple question, And that's different to Sr's crap made in China how? Some just want to fight I guess?

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 Did you notice this part of the FTC paperwork anotheridiot threw in there, as if an application for a "Made In The USA" designation by a bicycle company has phuquall to do with where PJD has their floormats made (nobody STILL knows anything about that, not that it mattered in the first place):

"A separate request to participate in the "Made in USA"
Workshop is being filed concurrently herewith."

Oops.

Thanks for providing the legal paperwork that proves PJD's bicycles are made in America. Does that make them okay now, as long as we know that no Asian/Indian/whoevers have laid their hands on the machines that make 'em? Now if we just knew where the factories are located that make those pesky alarm clocks, then we'll know whether they're treasured collectibles or just more Wal-mart crap.

ghostmonkey wrote:

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The entire World market thing is BS and is hurting a lot of country's.

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My friend, Virgilio, from Portugal, owns a broom factory near Loures.  The company is relatively new, having only been in business since the 1890's. Carrefour, and Tesco, the largest "big box chains" in that country, will not even carry the products which Virgilio's family business makes.  In 2008, they had 219 employees. Today, they have around 35.

Something's gotta give!

ghostmonkey wrote:

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Yep the supermarkets here have forced the closing of most fruit and veggie shops and butchers. Now we get stuff from china that's covered in ****. WTF?

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 The problem is that as long as it's more economical to ship it in instead of going it locally.  I just can't picture with fuel labor an shipping costs its has more incentive to produce out of country.  The politicians need to make it more economical by taxing the goods coming in to the point that those worldwide companies come her to make their products instead of sending them here on a container ship..

AnitaLaLouise wrote:

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A big part of the problem is that while we talk a good game about buying American, people still shop at Wal*Mart in droves because it's "cheaper". Businesses don't listen to our talk, they listen to our money so as long as we continue to buy the cheapest, that's what they'll give us.

I can remember The_One calling me a fool on the Disco boards for refusing to shop at Wal*Mart no matter how much cheaper it is. That's the kind of short-term thinking that got us where we are today.

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 I never said Vinnie and Rick were gonna sell more than Jr.

Yes, its a sad state. Six years ago Bush put a tariff on steel coming in from china to try to get manufacturers here to buy american. China stopped sending coke to fuel our dinosaur furnaces so we couldnt make enough anyway. Ends up, these american companies that used to make the metals are just selling the stuff from china. Obama tried to make a stand against china on tires, until they found out that Goodyear is the #1 importer of tires. You can make a decision to buy american, but its a wad of paper plugging the dam. At least Apple has decided to bring back some manufacturing of their products to the us, dont know if its gonna be an assembly line only with foreign parts like these import car companies allowing us americans to assemble their parts they bring in for free. They dont even make craftsman tools here anymore.