Why place the iconic OCC logo Jr designed right on top of the same logo??? Not well thought out, but about what you would expect from Sr and his uninspired advisors.
-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Saturday 5th of January 2013 05:37:50 AM
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He paid a ****load of money for that logo, why not use it? It was designed by his son when he was an employee of the company. The logo might be on there twice, but saves him from adding a logo to the sign that gets left up there after one of the places closes down. I still dont think you can see it from space like the pjd vehicles, but those are pickups leased by the business that are used as personal vehicles, they arent hauling parts to painters. Company cars need to do more than get one to and from work in the morning, these advertise.
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Looks about as smooth as this. Senior has no eye for design. Why brand his new enterprise with a carry over from Jr's era? Because no one has an ounce of creativity or the balls to tell the Walrus when something sucks.
Senior is also considering adding this McD offering to his cafe menu although he will most likely use his size 12's for table side delivery...
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-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Sunday 6th of January 2013 04:05:40 AM
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How much did he pay? And how would you know that the pickups are leased? Where do you get your info, you just make crap up. Sounds like the pickups are great for advertising if you can see them from space, which I doubt anyway.
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Your just not a bike shop till you start selling Xmas supplies and party decorations.
anotheridiot wrote: He paid a ****load of money for that logo, why not use it?
ghostmonkey wrote: How much did he pay?
Izzy Ryder wrote: Do you really think the self-taught "designer" created it during a fishing trip or a golf game or maybe during Sunday Mass? It was created during company time while Jr was on the company payroll. Anyway, the lawsuit settlement which paid back his 20% stake in OCC (probably several million $$$) repaid that 15 minutes of back breaking logo designing labor (doodling) pretty well too.
He didn't "pay" any money for it, his 20 percent partner Jr created it in the course of his salaried OCC employment. Nobody is debating if the logo is the intellectual property of Orange County Choppers. The debate is how big of a putz Sr is for stacking logo on top of logo in front of his cheeze burgers and choppers mausoleum...geez...it's like putting ketchup on your ketchup.
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Do you really think the self-taught "designer" created it during a fishing trip or a golf game or maybe during Sunday Mass? It was created during company time while Jr was on the company payroll. Anyway, the lawsuit settlement which paid back his 20% stake in OCC (probably several million $$$) repaid that 15 minutes of back breaking logo designing labor (doodling) pretty well too.
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anotheridiot wrote: He paid a ****load of money for that logo, why not use it?
ghostmonkey wrote: How much did he pay?
Izzy Ryder wrote: Do you really think the self-taught "designer" created it during a fishing trip or a golf game or maybe during Sunday Mass? It was created during company time while Jr was on the company payroll. Anyway, the lawsuit settlement which paid back his 20% stake in OCC (probably several million $$$) repaid that 15 minutes of back breaking logo designing labor (doodling) pretty well too.
He didn't "pay" any money for it, his 20 percent partner Jr created it in the course of his salaried OCC employment. Nobody is debating if the logo is the intellectual property of Orange County Choppers. The debate is how big of a putz Sr is for stacking logo on top of logo in front of his cheeze burgers and choppers mausoleum...geez...it's like putting ketchup on your ketchup.
-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Sunday 6th of January 2013 03:55:10 AM
Looks like the sign for the holy chruch of Seniorphilistines. With a "In Senior we trust" on top of the Cross...
The building as "iconic as is, like dahammer sez...
anotheridiot wrote: He paid a ****load of money for that logo, why not use it?
ghostmonkey wrote: How much did he pay?
Izzy Ryder wrote: Do you really think the self-taught "designer" created it during a fishing trip or a golf game or maybe during Sunday Mass? It was created during company time while Jr was on the company payroll. Anyway, the lawsuit settlement which paid back his 20% stake in OCC (probably several million $$$) repaid that 15 minutes of back breaking logo designing labor (doodling) pretty well too.
He didn't "pay" any money for it, his 20 percent partner Jr created it in the course of his salaried OCC employment. Nobody is debating if the logo is the intellectual property of Orange County Choppers. The debate is how big of a putz Sr is for stacking logo on top of logo in front of his cheeze burgers and choppers mausoleum...geez...it's like putting ketchup on your ketchup.
-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Sunday 6th of January 2013 03:55:10 AM
you junior fanatics should know it was created by the boy genius BEFORE he was a partner, when he was just an employee at the back of the steel shop cubby hole. What it ended up costing sr was the 20% and the buyout money.
You *******s just cannot comprehend the fact that sr will acknowledge what his son did for OCC, while junior has to explain to everyone that he did it all on his own.
You guys are convinced OCC will close, all I am saying is the cafe might stay open longer, so you take down either sign and you still have a freaking logo on the sign.
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Wow, the stench of desperation hangs heavy in this thread. Where's my clothespin?
You don't know when - or where - Junior created OCC's primary logo (one of four, by my count), only that he did create it, and even that blockbuster tidbit of earth-shattering information was from a single snippet of one of the first episodes of the series, over a decade ago. You don't know if he doodled it on a napkin during lunch or while "officially" on the clock, nor whether it was a factor in Senior's quixotic lawsuit(s), only that you can bet your sweet bippy the trademark and licensing rights have always been held by a certain self-styled "businessman."
Knowing in retrospect that Senior put on a big show about making "Cody's bike" with him - and then cheerfully screwed him out of it as soon as the Director yelled "cut," and that Vinnie stood face-to-face with Senior and accused him of ripping him off for back-pay and appearance fees, would you care to make a stab at what Junior's cut of licensing and merchandising fees has been over the years - or now - or what any graphic designer's cut is for having designed a logo? Go ahead, pick one. Just one, that'll do (and don't pull it out of the same orifice you usually get your "facts" from).
Every time you buy a product, whoever designed the logo on the label gets a few pennies. Do you walk through Wal-Mart making wild guesses and shots in the dark about whether the graphic designer responsible for each logo you see created it on vacation or while toiling feverishly at his or her desk, or whether they deserved it?
Every time you buy a product, whoever designed the logo on the label gets a few pennies. Do you walk through Wal-Mart making wild guesses and shots in the dark about whether the graphic designer responsible for each logo you see created it on vacation or while toiling feverishly at his or her desk, or whether they deserved it?
Actually, I'll bet you do.
No, the professional graphic designer responsible was hired under contract after a full education, not scribbling on napkins.
Dont even start trying to make people believe junior is a self taught graphic designer now. We all know his hard head could not even allow jason to put his ideas down on paper because he was afraid jason, the professional would get credit. But dont forget what jr said in his last temper tantrum, jason did things for junior that junior took full credit for.
Yeah, I say junior got more than a few pennies from his time at OCC and most probably needed to sign over all rights to whatever he did to get that big fat check, including the logo. All I am saying is if sr was still the ******* everyone thinks he was, he would have had jason replace that logo by now.
And what is this proof that cody was ripped off of a motorcycle? Didnt sr offer to send him down to florida to school and cody turned him down? They are all two way streets.
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No, the professional graphic designer responsible was hired under contract after a full education, not scribbling on napkins.
Dont even start trying to make people believe junior is a self taught graphic designer now. We all know his hard head could not even allow jason to put his ideas down on paper because he was afraid jason, the professional would get credit. But dont forget what jr said in his last temper tantrum, jason did things for junior that junior took full credit for.
Yeah, I say junior got more than a few pennies from his time at OCC and most probably needed to sign over all rights to whatever he did to get that big fat check, including the logo. All I am saying is if sr was still the ******* everyone thinks he was, he would have had jason replace that logo by now.
And what is this proof that cody was ripped off of a motorcycle? Didnt sr offer to send him down to florida to school and cody turned him down? They are all two way streets.
Jason the professional? bahahaha It wasn't very professional to throw a bike of the lift that Rick and Mike had spent so much time on was it? Or how about his general goofiness that has cost Sr so much?
No he didn't. You are just incapable of telling the truth, bit like Sr. Jason replace the logo, yeah right.
The lawsuit. So sending him to school made it ok to rip the kid off?
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Your just not a bike shop till you start selling Xmas supplies and party decorations.
You *******s just cannot comprehend the fact that sr will acknowledge what his son did for OCC, while junior has to explain to everyone that he did it all on his own.
Then why did Sr remove Jr from the website and change his bio from saying CO FOUNDER to FOUNDER of OCC????????
And have you not read tha ABOUT OCC CAFE? If not have a read. bahahahaha
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The hardest working person at OCC is the person Jason steals his designs from.
Your just not a bike shop till you start selling Xmas supplies and party decorations.
Wow, the stench of desperation hangs heavy in this thread. Where's my clothespin?
You don't know when - or where - Junior created OCC's primary logo (one of four, by my count), only that he did create it, and even that blockbuster tidbit of earth-shattering information was from a single snippet of one of the first episodes of the series, over a decade ago. You don't know if he doodled it on a napkin during lunch or while "officially" on the clock, nor whether it was a factor in Senior's quixotic lawsuit(s), only that you can bet your sweet bippy the trademark and licensing rights have always been held by a certain self-styled "businessman."
Knowing in retrospect that Senior put on a big show about making "Cody's bike" with him - and then cheerfully screwed him out of it as soon as the Director yelled "cut," and that Vinnie stood face-to-face with Senior and accused him of ripping him off for back-pay and appearance fees, would you care to make a stab at what Junior's cut of licensing and merchandising fees has been over the years - or now - or what any graphic designer's cut is for having designed a logo? Go ahead, pick one. Just one, that'll do (and don't pull it out of the same orifice you usually get your "facts" from).
Every time you buy a product, whoever designed the logo on the label gets a few pennies. Do you walk through Wal-Mart making wild guesses and shots in the dark about whether the graphic designer responsible for each logo you see created it on vacation or while toiling feverishly at his or her desk, or whether they deserved it?
Actually, I'll bet you do.
That's true if he would've registered himself instead of trusting Daddie at that young age to always work for the best interest for his son(s), like a Daddie always should. I pretty much think he got fair compansation for the years of Senior mechandising an whoring ouut the logo, they all got fairly wealthy. An Junior cut of the is extactly what that 20% for the settlement pretty much equates to what the logo was worth to the company.
Regardless of who created the logo, why would OCC change the icon that everyone recognizes as being associated with their brand ?
Harley Davidson never changed their logo when they were bought out by AMF. The AMF letters were just added under the existing logo. Did Ford change their logo when Henry Ford died ? No.
Jr created the logo on a piece of notebook paper when he and Sr were building bikes in their basement. Before creating an actual company. He wasn't an owner, or employee. He was just a kid working on bikes with his father. If anything, the logo was gifted to the company that was later started. Any rights he may have had to the logo would have been relinquished when he was bought out of the company after the court case.
While the double use of the logo on the sign may appear to be redundant, it serves to distinguish that there are two distinct divisions under the same roof. I've seen Sears do the same thing when advertising their store, auto shop, and parts centers.
Every time you buy a product, whoever designed the logo on the label gets a few pennies.
What? You clearly don't know anything about how businesses and trademarks work. If an employee creates something, the thing is part of the intellectual property of the company, not the employee. Even if the company were to contract a graphic designer to create a logo, the contracted payment would be the only thing the designer would get for the logo, they do not get anything further when the logo is used. It is solely the property of the company.
