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jakemac · Senior Member

RE: Junior Wins The Build-Off Again!

ghostmonkey · Guru

Izzy Ryder wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Izzy Ryder wrote:
Brandon was having a little bit of creativity conflict with Jr in those last few builds.... Then he remembered he signed a contract for a nice fat paycheck.
Yep and as the boss Jr understands that with his method sometimes things will have to be done twice but knows the final product is much better because of this. As seen in the latest build off Jr understands a bike has to flow and have nice lines, unlike some so called designers.
Sounds more like Rick after Sr abuses him.

-- Edited by ghostmonkey on Friday 14th of December 2012 05:20:07 PM
Yep... Rick is like a battered housewife....... he just not strong enough to abandon his loyalty. <rolling eyes>

Well do you think Rick has stayed with OCC because he enjoyes building the junk Jason designs or because of the big fat pay check?

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

Izzy Ryder wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Izzy Ryder wrote:
Brandon was having a little bit of creativity conflict with Jr in those last few builds.... Then he remembered he signed a contract for a nice fat paycheck.
Yep and as the boss Jr understands that with his method sometimes things will have to be done twice but knows the final product is much better because of this. As seen in the latest build off Jr understands a bike has to flow and have nice lines, unlike some so called designers.
Sounds more like Rick after Sr abuses him.

-- Edited by ghostmonkey on Friday 14th of December 2012 05:20:07 PM
Yep... Rick is like a battered housewife....... he just not strong enough to abandon his loyalty. <rolling eyes>

Holy Sh....!! Finally something we agree upon...LMAO...Now if Rick would've been in the build-off Junior wouldn't have had a chance..

Renegade · Senior Member

Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.

What's Jr got to do with Rick?

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Renegade wrote:
Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.

OCC has a retirement plan with probally less than 50 employees? Why would anyone ever leave???

Renegade · Senior Member

Because they signed their lives away to Occ a decade ago. disbelief

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
Because they signed their lives away to Occ a decade ago.

What are you on about?

rumple · Veteran Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.
What's Jr got to do with Rick?

I think he's referring to the bike that Rick and Junior built together that was supposed to be Rick's afterward, but then Junior reneged on the deal and decided to keep it. Rick even filed a lawsuit over it (also for back pay and appearance fees). Obviously, Junior can't be trusted with a so-called "retirement plan" if he can't even fork over a bike he promised to Rick in front of the whole freakin' world.

I might be wrong about some trivial details, but I believe that's the gist of it.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Renegade wrote: Because they signed their lives away to Occ a decade ago.
ghostmonkey wrote: What are you on about?
Renegade wrote: Occ retirement plan.
Huh...in the entire ten years of American Chopper not one person who left OCC (and there have been many) has said squat in print or on screen about not leaving because of some lucrative retirement plan.

-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Saturday 15th of December 2012 11:55:52 PM

Renegade · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
Because they signed their lives away to Occ a decade ago.
What are you on about?

Occ retirement plan.

ghostmonkey · Guru

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has no clue what he is talking about and I doubt he even knows.

SherryRichard · Senior Member

Great posts!!! Of course I like Jr's bike the best because he builds bikes that look good to me. I know very little about putting them together but regardless of the person's skills, the bike has to look good at least for me! I took a good look at Sr's bike after Richard pointed some things out to me and after all was done I would have chosen Sr's bike to come in 2nd if I had been a judge. I was shocked Gas Monkey's came in 2nd. I realize they don't have the machinary that the other shops have but they didn't even build a bike; like Anita said, they just refurbed it. And it kinda reminded me of a bicycle. If Jesse waited 10 years to build the bike he entered, then he wasted a decade of brain power! Yes, I'm sure the way he did the frame was great. But I keep thinking about all the talk about frames and how they have to be built strong. The question I would have is the frame strong enough...

At the end of the first build off they talked to Jr and his team. This time around they stopped abruptly and I wonder why? They were on a delay so did Jesse have a melt down or did one of the other guys turn berserker?

And since I had the TV on I watched some of the Amish Mafia. I turned it off when it got too ridiculous! Like really, a sister and brother are going to take the big, bad, top dog down on national TV? Like he really doesn't know what they're doing? If nothing else, the camera crew would tell him that is if it was real. Like we don't know this show is totally scripted? Since AC is the only show I watch on Discovery (well I have watched some Fast and Loud when I didn't turn the TV off right away but I won't turn them on) I won't be watching Discovery anymore. I have a pretty good cable package so I should get Velosity is it???? I think my husband, Richard, watches it on his TV.

You know they don't have the Gas Monkey guys fighting with each other; they go find cars and fix them up to sell. Jr could have a better show than that because he has guys with skills that people would like to watch. And Jr and his team can turn pranks to give some life to the show. I liked it when Jr answered Jesse's offer to teach him "skills." He said I though I'd offer you advise on how to get a bike done on time. And there is where Jr and Sr does have it on the others; they have to get their bikes done on short deadlines!!!

You might wonder why I'm being nice about Sr. Well he didn't give any reason to bash him during the build off.

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

I agree... Sherry. Senior did no wrong, but he relied on only the engineering aspect, also they didn't go far enough on the astetics. Need color to make the bike look less montoned, like combos of brass,nickel, gold, copper, any kind of color othan than aluminum.

SherryRichard · Senior Member

rumple wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.
What's Jr got to do with Rick?
I think he's referring to the bike that Rick and Junior built together that was supposed to be Rick's afterward, but then Junior reneged on the deal and decided to keep it. Rick even filed a lawsuit over it (also for back pay and appearance fees). Obviously, Junior can't be trusted with a so-called "retirement plan" if he can't even fork over a bike he promised to Rick in front of the whole freakin' world.
I might be wrong about some trivial details, but I believe that's the gist of it.

Huh??? You're kidding, right? Yeah you sure do have some "trivial" details wrong and I don't see anything to indicate you're kidding so here goes: The Teutel you are talking about is Sr; not Jr!!!!

AnitaLaLouise · Senior Member

rumple wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
Rick wants a retirement plan. Will Junior offer him that since the show is over? I highly doubt that. He's just doing was right for his family..you would too.
What's Jr got to do with Rick?
I think he's referring to the bike that Rick and Junior built together that was supposed to be Rick's afterward, but then Junior reneged on the deal and decided to keep it. Rick even filed a lawsuit over it (also for back pay and appearance fees). Obviously, Junior can't be trusted with a so-called "retirement plan" if he can't even fork over a bike he promised to Rick in front of the whole freakin' world.
I might be wrong about some trivial details, but I believe that's the gist of it.

I think you might be referring to the bike that Sr and Cody built. The thing you said about Rick and Jr never actually happened.

jakemac · Senior Member

I think that Rumple's post was intended to be a tongue-in-cheek response to the exchange between Ghost and Renegade. At least that's how I read it.

AnitaLaLouise · Senior Member

Dammit, we need a sarcasm smiley.

Sorry Rumple.

SherryRichard · Senior Member

I think that Rumple's post was intended to be a tongue-in-cheek response to the exchange between Ghost and Renegade. At least that's how I read it.

AnitaLaLouise

...we need a sarcasm smiley.

Sorry Rumple.

SherryRichard

Me too...as I said it didn't look like you were kidding. Tongue-in-cheek that's a different story....

rumple · Senior Member

AnitaLaLouise wrote:
Dammit, we need a sarcasm smiley.

Sorry Rumple.

Renegade · Senior Member

This place got quiet...