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jakemac · Senior Member

RE: American Choppers comes to an END!

Renegade · Senior Member

I think people are getting tired of Discovery's drama formula on every show. Why does the talent never shine in shows anymore?

jakemac · Senior Member

Apparently they think that success will not make for good television. That's why we have three shows about guys digging holes in the ground, and not finding gold.

Renegade · Senior Member

Jungle gold, Bering sea gold, Gold rush. When will it end? :(

jakemac · Senior Member

I think that there is a fourth one starting up with a group going to South America to dig the holes that Todd Hoffman refused.

Renegade · Senior Member

I wonder if they might bring back AC for a 3rd time? lol

jakemac · Senior Member

It's always possible, but I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.

Renegade · Senior Member

Give it a year or two. When Junior settles down and have a kid and Senior comes over for bbqs. Then the show will be back for a last curtain call.

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

I can't belive that ya drink a American style brand like Yeungling?!?!?

jojo · Member

Piligian kicked Jr off the "set"?

Interesting word choice in that article. Which "set" would that be? PJD? or OCC?

Whatever was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like it would've made a better reality show than AC.

Renegade · Senior Member

Junior must be walking around in his house trying to think of an excuse why he made the show get cancelled. Looks like Senior was right all along guys. We only know what they show us on T.V. What happens (off camaera) is reality.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
Junior must be walking around in his house trying to think of an excuse why he made the show get cancelled. Looks like Senior was right all along guys. We only know what they show us on T.V. What happens (off camaera) is reality.

How was it Jr's fault?

ghostmonkey · Guru

ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.

Looks like you were wrong El.

anotheridiot · Guru

jojo wrote:
Piligian kicked Jr off the "set"?
Interesting word choice in that article. Which "set" would that be? PJD? or OCC?
Whatever was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like it would've made a better reality show than AC.

Maybe that is why PJD only has temporary banners on that building. Its actually a discovery set. Maybe paulie will need to go back to the OCC building, so he has a place to work.

I still say, Jr has not built a bike in his shop for three weeks. His direction is put his logo on whatever possible, the show is supposed to be about building bikes.

anotheridiot · Guru

Renegade wrote:
Give it a year or two. When Junior settles down and have a kid and Senior comes over for bbqs. Then the show will be back for a last curtain call.

This should be the extent of ther relationship. Family functions, ball games, charity events. Thats enough for most father son relationships.

ghostmonkey · Guru

anotheridiot wrote:
jojo wrote:
Piligian kicked Jr off the "set"?
Interesting word choice in that article. Which "set" would that be? PJD? or OCC?
Whatever was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like it would've made a better reality show than AC.
Maybe that is why PJD only has temporary banners on that building. Its actually a discovery set. Maybe paulie will need to go back to the OCC building, so he has a place to work.

I still say, Jr has not built a bike in his shop for three weeks. His direction is put his logo on whatever possible, the show is supposed to be about building bikes.

And OCC has spent most of this season building bikes for themselves. The OCC Cafe bike, Sr's bike and the Super bike. Maybe Jr should start building a bike for PJD Studios.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

I will miss AC, but for me it has only been half a show for years. But half a show was better than no show. Thanks to the fast forward DVR button I could effortlessly skip over the Senior segments that I no longer was able to stomach. Always found it interesting to see what Jr. could come up with to somehow represent a customers product or theme. Doesn't matter which side of the fence you fall on now I guess. For all the Jr. killed it and Senior killed it conspiracy nuts TV is a simple matter - falling ratings = declining revenue = show cancelled.

Renegade · Senior Member

anotheridiot wrote:
Renegade wrote:
Give it a year or two. When Junior settles down and have a kid and Senior comes over for bbqs. Then the show will be back for a last curtain call.
This should be the extent of ther relationship. Family functions, ball games, charity events. Thats enough for most father son relationships.

Jesse James is somewhere laughing his ass off.

Renegade · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.
Looks like you were wrong El.

His "Ego trippin" got in the way.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.
Looks like you were wrong El.
His "Ego trippin" got in the way.

Dude you said the same as him.

jojo · Member

The ratings aren't that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant a mid-season cancellation.

The last 2 episodes got an 0.7 share of adults 18-49, during MNF. They beat Outlaw garage both nights (albeit a better time slot).

Nov 13

Nov 20

There's gotta be a lot more going on behind the scenes.

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

I don't know, I know myself haven't been watching very much DSC since... All it's seems to be trending to be the topic is about Gold an Gators, or Shining. I guess that's what the young'uns or advertisers want.

anotheridiot · Guru

ghostmonkey wrote:
anotheridiot wrote:
jojo wrote:
Piligian kicked Jr off the "set"?
Interesting word choice in that article. Which "set" would that be? PJD? or OCC?
Whatever was going on behind the scenes, it sounds like it would've made a better reality show than AC.
Maybe that is why PJD only has temporary banners on that building. Its actually a discovery set. Maybe paulie will need to go back to the OCC building, so he has a place to work.

I still say, Jr has not built a bike in his shop for three weeks. His direction is put his logo on whatever possible, the show is supposed to be about building bikes.
And OCC has spent most of this season building bikes for themselves. The OCC Cafe bike, Sr's bike and the Super bike. Maybe Jr should start building a bike for PJD Studios.

Why would jr build a bike for the studios? he wants away from motorcycles and if he did he would have to pay for it.

anotheridiot · Guru

1Moparsick0 wrote:
I don't know, I know myself haven't been watching very much DSC since... All it's seems to be trending to be the topic is about Gold an Gators, or Shining. I guess that's what the young'uns or advertisers want.

Every couple days Richard Rollins gets all excited that another marathon of fast n loud is on. The newer shows are going right down the food chain where people are happy to be on tv and not worried about being paid for them airing the shows.

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

All I know is this certainly the entertainment giant that I can remember winners like AC,AHR,Junkyard wars,BBO,Monster Garage-House, Build it Bigger,Trading Spaces,LPBW, and many of the fine, fun family programming.

ghostmonkey · Guru

jojo wrote:
The ratings aren't that bad. Certainly not bad enough to warrant a mid-season cancellation.
The last 2 episodes got an 0.7 share of adults 18-49, during MNF. They beat Outlaw garage both nights (albeit a better time slot).
Nov 13
Nov 20
There's gotta be a lot more going on behind the scenes.

Did you see PAMD post?

ghostmonkey · Guru

anotheridiot wrote:

And OCC has spent most of this season building bikes for themselves. The OCC Cafe bike, Sr's bike and the Super bike. Maybe Jr should start building a bike for PJD Studios.
Why would jr build a bike for the studios? he wants away from motorcycles and if he did he would have to pay for it.

Smart considering what happen to the show.

Renegade · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.
Looks like you were wrong El.
His "Ego trippin" got in the way.
Dude you said the same as him.

Sometimes Junior gets frustrated and caught up with multi-tasking multiples ventures and don't think what he's doing. If you seen last episode at the end he finally gets it. He needs to think how his actions effect his employees. So he's human and will make mistakes.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.
Looks like you were wrong El.
His "Ego trippin" got in the way.
Dude you said the same as him.
Sometimes Junior gets frustrated and caught up with multi-tasking multiples ventures and don't think what he's doing. If you seen last episode at the end he finally gets it. He needs to think how his actions effect his employees. So he's human and will make mistakes.

Yes of course but what does that have to do with you and El saying the reason the show got cancelled was because of him?

Izzy Ryder · Senior Member

In the long run, it doesn't matter who's fault it was. Even JJ managed to coax DC into a couple of new shows after he burned the "Monster Garage" bridge.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Izzy Ryder wrote:
In the long run, it doesn't matter who's fault it was. Even JJ managed to coax DC into a couple of new shows after he burned the "Monster Garage" bridge.

Yep fully agree. That was my point to El, it doesn't matter how much of a pain in the butt you are to the producers if you rate and bring in money they would use anyone.

Maribegood · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Izzy Ryder wrote:
In the long run, it doesn't matter who's fault it was. Even JJ managed to coax DC into a couple of new shows after he burned the "Monster Garage" bridge.
Yep fully agree. That was my point to El, it doesn't matter how much of a pain in the butt you are to the producers if you rate and bring in money they would use anyone.

^That in a nutshell.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Looks like discovery is not done giving great shows the hatchet...just announced Dirtiest Jobs cancelled. One of my all time favorites, although how many interesting dirty jobs can you profile before the well runs dry. Hope they find a new platform to showcase Mike Rowe and his wonderful hosting skills.

Renegade · Senior Member

They should just sell discovery to disney smh. Mike rowe will survive on tires, jeans, and fored commercials lol.

PAMD · Senior Member

Here's one of the photos of the GAF (Roofing Materials) Bike referenced in the above article:

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and another

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And the Recordonline.com Youtube video of the filming of a scene from the last show:

http://www.youtube.com/..........YXJ2To (2:50 to 4:52 minutes into the video)

-- Edited by PAMD on Thursday 29th of November 2012 09:41:58 PM

-- Edited by PAMD on Thursday 29th of November 2012 10:32:19 PM

ghostmonkey · Guru

Sad day.

The hundreds who gathered on Wednesday pushed against each other to witness the show's final days. They recorded with cameras, cell phones and even iPads as Senior rolled past on one last made-for-TV motorcycle, closing the narrow path behind him until he disappeared into the crowd, leaving the smell of exhaust fumes behind him.

http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121129/NEWS/211290320

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

The GAF bike looks like another uninspired OCC Sr. turd IMO.

AnitaLaLouise · Senior Member

Hmmm....That looks like a Jr bike.

I think probably it was not so much a ratings decline for AC as it was a problem finding customers to build bikes for. Even PJD hasn't built a bike for anyone for the last 3 episodes or so. He did t-shirts, bicycles, and worked on the 9/11 bike. No new bikes.

anotheridiot · Guru

well, the bike looks better in the video. You dont take a picture of an orange bike against an orange wall lol.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

AnitaLaLouise wrote:
Hmmm....That looks like a Jr bike.

Come on...you know Jr. would have a chrome hammer or ladder rung or shingle textured seat on that baby...lol. Nothing about it says theme bike. Might as well of ordered a OCC softail, swap in a springer front and paint it orange.Don't get me wrong I'm sure it's a nice custom but compared to a Wow Factor theme bike it comes up short in my book.

jakemac · Senior Member

I'll wait until I see it on the show, all I can tell from the photo is that the person taking the pic doesn't know how to take a flattering photograph.

AnitaLaLouise · Senior Member

I didn't mean Jr bike: doodads all over it. I meant the style, even down to the big front tire and humpy tank. Glue/rivet a few trinkets on it and it would be a Jr bike.

Izzy Ryder · Senior Member

I don't think Jr would ever build a chopper with spoke wheels. He more into the billet, cnc made stuff.

Renegade · Senior Member

Izzy Ryder wrote:
I don't think Jr would ever build a chopper with spoke wheels. He more into the billet, cnc made stuff.

no bueno

rumple · Veteran Member

Renegade wrote:
Izzy Ryder wrote:
I don't think Jr would ever build a chopper with spoke wheels. He more into the billet, cnc made stuff.
no bueno

Wow, he speaks Spanish as well as Gibberish. He's bilingual!

ghostmonkey · Guru

Here's another pic. Man they left on a high. Another great design by the Real Life Industrial Designer.

http://www.designbyjoyce.com/paulsr/bikes.html

Renegade · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
Renegade wrote:
ghostmonkey wrote:
ElGuapo wrote:
I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.
Looks like you were wrong El.
His "Ego trippin" got in the way.
Dude you said the same as him.
Sometimes Junior gets frustrated and caught up with multi-tasking multiples ventures and don't think what he's doing. If you seen last episode at the end he finally gets it. He needs to think how his actions effect his employees. So he's human and will make mistakes.
Yes of course but what does that have to do with you and El saying the reason the show got cancelled was because of him?

His bad choices leads to the show being cancelled. How hard is that for you to grasp?

jakemac · Senior Member

Renegade wrote:
His bad choices leads to the show being cancelled. How hard is that for you to grasp?

But that is a great leap in logic, that has no corresponding facts to support it. You could just as well say that Jason's immature behavior caused the show to be cancelled. Or that Paul Ryan's hair caused Romney to loose the Presidential race, thus causing the network to purge it's longest running shows.

All three of those statements are ridiculous, and can't be taken seriously without some background actions that link them directly to the cancellation.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Renegade wrote:
His bad choices leads to the show being cancelled. How hard is that for you to grasp?

Because that's not why the show got cancelled. Prove it if that's the case.

Renegade · Senior Member

Junior proved it. Actions speak louder then words. Piligian proved that.