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Well.... his newly created "PJD Productions" can always make a commercial to attract new customers.

Better yet... Jr could produce his own TV show!

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Friday 16th of November 2012 05:42:03 PM

jakemac wrote:

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Pilgrim didn't cancel the show, Discovery did. The two are separate entities. Jr pissing off Piligan would have no effect on Discovery's decision, it's all about the ratings vs the budget.

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 that's what I was thinking

-- Edited by ghostmonkey on Friday 28th of December 2012 11:36:34 PM

Maybe if Pilgrim changes the name of the show to "Chopper Gold", Discovery will keep it on the air.

-- Edited by jakemac on Friday 16th of November 2012 06:58:16 PM

jakemac wrote:

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Maybe if Pilgrim changes the name of the show to "Chopper Gold", Discovery will keep it on the air.

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 Haha.... No... "Here Comes Paulie BooBoo"

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Friday 16th of November 2012 07:07:53 PM

Quote from article......
".....At one point when shooting the current final season, Piligian fired Junior and kicked him off the set. “It’s a very tumultuous relationship, not only between the father and son, but between us as well,” Piligian says. “Junior and I would have it out, and at one point awhile back, I said, ‘We’re done with you.’” The two reconciled and Junior returned to work shortly thereafter..... "
Very interesting. I wonder what Jr could have done or said to piss him off that much.

Might make it back again. I dont know, its exhausting for us fans, I can imagine that poor team covering these guys.

Reality stars will get a dose of reality. Lets just hope they go back to travelling around to different shops and introducing us to more builders.

Peter Griffin wrote:

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Guess this just proves to everyone that Jr, and not Sr, was the d*ck to work with. It's like Pilgrim is the LAST person Jr should be pissing off. It's not a surprise because the ratings were tanking this year.

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 Jr is already on twitter campaigning (begging) for viewers to call and get him his own show.

Renegade wrote:

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Junior sometimes act like he's bigger then the show. I guess this is where Vinnie and Cody part ways and back to the developmental studios. Obamacare is going to screw up alot buisnesses. Dennys franchise is raising it's food because of it.

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 How does he act like he's bigger then the show?

He was doing what Pilgrim scripted, them going full circle.

lol

Jr can beg all he wants, but he clearly pissed off the guy who might have been able to give him his own show. But as I said in another thread, an all Jr show would be dull as dishwater.

See, I always stated that Junior was different from the "personae" on American Chopper. But I really thought Junior would be smarter than this. You don't make the guy mad, that made the show, and basically made you. I guess Junior thought that he no longer needed American Chopper or Craig Piligian.

jakemac wrote:

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.... Either way, they got over it. When Piligan called Jr to ask about the build-off, Jr jumped right on the bandwagon, with no problem. Jesse on the other hand just wanted to know if he would get paid......

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 That's ok. Not everyone get's Jesse's style of humor.

Surprised you didn't think it was probably a cheap shot at Jr. anyway.

ElGuapo wrote:

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See, I always stated that Junior was different from the "personae" on American Chopper. But I really thought Junior would be smarter than this. You don't make the guy mad, that made the show, and basically made you. I guess Junior thought that he no longer needed American Chopper or Craig Piligian.

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 Why because he stood up for himself and didn't let Craig Piligian push him around? Who had to go back and crawl up who's butt? Craig Piligian did.

Coxie -
PG was assuming that Piligan pulled the plug on the show, when in reality, he had no say in the decision.

Peter Griffin wrote:

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I know you boys are sad that the world knows Jr is a jack@ss now. 

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 I've never stated that Jr couldn't be a jack@ass, and I certainly don't believe that he's a saint. I'm just pointing out that being a d!ck to your producer doesn't get your show cancelled. If that were true, there would be a lot less shows on TV. Charlie Sheen has already proved that your show can go on without you. As much as I dislike Craig Piligan, I can blame him for many things about the current format of the show, but I can't blame him for the decision to cancel either.

Peter Griffin wrote:

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I think Pilgrim has enough pull (from producing so many reality shows on Discovery and it's sister stations) that he could have kept it afloat, but he probably got tired of dealing with Jr's crap. None of us will ever know what happened; so everyone entitled to their opinions. I know Jake and ghost can't believe their hero fought with the producer and was so stupid in doing so.

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 one word Peter ratings, no ratings = no show it'svthat simple

I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.

Peter Griffin wrote:

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right, guapo. I think we should have a tag team cage match-Sr's team (me and guapo) versus Jr's team (ghost and jake) in a loser leaves town match.

 

ghostmonkey wrote:

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ElGuapo wrote:

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I also get the feeling that Piligian was just tired of it. And so he lost faith. Possibly Jun ior became just too much of a problem.

I wonder if Vinnie and Cody will be frustrated with Junior. His shenanigans has lost the cash cow.

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Why it was Piligian who cancelled the show.

 

lol, ok we aren't going to go round and round with this.  Ghost, you must be like Rain Man, you are repetitive as hell lol

-- Edited by Peter Griffin on Friday 16th of November 2012 07:11:08 PM

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 I don't get why you think it was because of Jr that Discovery cancelled the show. As the article said Piligian fired Jr before and when he tried to pitch the show to Discovery they said no Jr means no show so Piligian had to suck up to Jr. Now the ratings are bad so bye bye show. Nothing to do with Jr or Piligian.

Interesting to see Junior trying to get viewer support for a new show. Junior wanted something like that earlier on, and Pilgrim would not go for it. Junior just is not that interesting of a person. He is very bland and vanilla. Junior is so careful with his "image" that he is boring.

The thing is that many other people had problems with Junior before. Remember the company that wanted a bike and stated that PJD was unprofessional? I have always thought Junior had an attitude. Senior always stated that Junior was arrogant.

Peter Griffin wrote: Junior should be fined for making Occ lose the show ;)

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You can just tell Jr is a complete @sshole and now he got called out on it. Know it's a sad day for the Jr Lovers.

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ElGuapo wrote:

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Interesting to see Junior trying to get viewer support for a new show. Junior wanted something like that earlier on, and Pilgrim would not go for it. Junior just is not that interesting of a person. He is very bland and vanilla. Junior is so careful with his "image" that he is boring.

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Where does it say anywhere that the show was cancelled because of Jr???????????????????????

ElGuapo wrote:

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Who won??????

Financially Senior and Junior won.

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 Let's hope they can continue to afford their current lifestyles.

Don't want to hear later the shops made another shady bankruptcy deal to evade the tax collectors.

jakemac wrote:

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Coxie -
PG was assuming that Piligan pulled the plug on the show, when in reality, he had no say in the decision.

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 The dude is a complete fool.