Wouldn't it be a interesting move to have BOTH Senior an Junior Commenting on the build teams. I know this idear sounds damn near delusional but would be a way to warm up a return to a series for Senior or Junior.
Sr does not seem to need any help keeping his guys working with builds. Jr is trying to stay relevant. I guess Dad could help his son and do it to keep him in the spotlight, but pretty sure Sr went down that road once again and it got him sued.
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Sr does not seem to need any help keeping his guys working with builds. Jr is trying to stay relevant. I guess Dad could help his son and do it to keep him in the spotlight, but pretty sure Sr went down that road once again and it got him sued.
But Senior would've been a nice addition to come in on his more old skool style... Hell, I'd like it to be a format like BBQ Masters. You have a panel of three foremost authorizes on biker style, much like Car Warriors or the many other singing otherwise dramatic situated reality-fiction docu-dribble.
Sr does not seem to need any help keeping his guys working with builds. Jr is trying to stay relevant. I guess Dad could help his son and do it to keep him in the spotlight, but pretty sure Sr went down that road once again and it got him sued.
But Senior would've been a nice addition to come in on his more old skool style... Hell, I'd like it to be a format like BBQ Masters. You have a panel of three foremost authorizes on biker style, much like Car Warriors or the many other singing otherwise dramatic situated reality-fiction docu-dribble.
You could even have Rick Petko as a commentator.
thats the key, foremost authorities choosing the winner, not voting that starts before you see the finished build. Eventually I think they offer the team with the most twit votes their own series. Thats all this whole thing is looking for. You want to do these bull**** votes, then lets do a live build with the winner of each shows popularity contest and have that judged properlyt.
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Snowballs chance in hell? Last I heard Sr was involved with GAC, another network, so I highly doubt they would want to see him on discovery. But then again, you are the kid that hates his father, so you feel Sr owed jr, that same jr that chose to be paid as an independent contractor, not even an employee, but then expected his piece of the business when his panties got in a wad and he quit.
Honestly, I dont think Sr wants anything to do with builds that dont have experts voting on the winner. Start voting for your favorite people before you even see how they build the bike, what it looks like, how big of a prick they are.
I'm not quite a child, but I am a son whose father makes no attempts to show any love for what his son does in the name of keeping the legacy going.
I find it odd that the progenitor that makes the progeny to want him to fail on his own, or to hate the progeny when he succeeds at anything.
In My wisdom I never fathom how a father can go from a loving father to a bitter hateful temperamental-man-child!
Sr does not seem to need any help keeping his guys working with builds. Jr is trying to stay relevant. I guess Dad could help his son and do it to keep him in the spotlight, but pretty sure Sr went down that road once again and it got him sued.
But Senior would've been a nice addition to come in on his more old skool style... Hell, I'd like it to be a format like BBQ Masters. You have a panel of three foremost authorizes on biker style, much like Car Warriors or the many other singing otherwise dramatic situated reality-fiction docu-dribble.
You could even have Rick Petko as a commentator.
thats the key, foremost authorities choosing the winner, not voting that starts before you see the finished build. Eventually I think they offer the team with the most twit votes their own series. Thats all this whole thing is looking for. You want to do these bull**** votes, then lets do a live build with the winner of each shows popularity contest and have that judged properlyt.
I'll admit the voting is flawed, i'm sure even the selection of the builders may be flawed, an I'm sure it will not possibly gain the respect of the true BBO series. But after one episode to not give it a chance to improve itself.
They are all in the can. They cant change the voting as they go. If they did a final show with the four winners (I think its 4) with a real vote then that might fix it. I will watch tomorrows start to finish, I will watch the rest of the series too, its not gonna make me stop watching, it can just be much better with the real experts picking the winner, better off if they dont know which team built which bike.
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But who would you get... At least the BBQ pitmasters series has Mixon, Tuffy, an other Past Champions as the mix of judges. Who would you plan to get . Former BBO winners?
Thats a good point, since most of the real builders out there think this is a joke and probably still hold a grudge against discovery for making the teutels the spokespeople for their industry maybe they would not want to vote.
But fine, jr, sr, jesse, richard, at least some of them would just look at the bikes. But being at a real bike show there are tens of thousands of voters, even if its paper ballots like they did a few times. All I am saying, is whats the harm from showing the bikes at the beginning of the show and telling people to start voting. Three bikes, all angles, dont know who built them. Vote for the bike. Then watch the show and learn who wins, even if they are the biggest pricks of the show, take the people out of it. Doing it this way, there might have been a few people asking what the hell was that thing, like jr's 1920 bicycle homage and that car deal instead of whats Jr's number so I can vote for him.
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Thats a good point, since most of the real builders out there think this is a joke and probably still hold a grudge against discovery for making the teutels the spokespeople for their industry maybe they would not want to vote.
But fine, jr, sr, jesse, richard, at least some of them would just look at the bikes. But being at a real bike show there are tens of thousands of voters, even if its paper ballots like they did a few times. All I am saying, is whats the harm from showing the bikes at the beginning of the show and telling people to start voting. Three bikes, all angles, dont know who built them. Vote for the bike. Then watch the show and learn who wins, even if they are the biggest pricks of the show, take the people out of it. Doing it this way, there might have been a few people asking what the hell was that thing, like jr's 1920 bicycle homage and that car deal instead of whats Jr's number so I can vote for him.
There is no perfect way to run these things, just ways to make them better. How about supplying three frames to three builders to build the same style bike so there isnt a bagger, a jesse stretch bike and an industrial bobber. Instead of giving them 15 grand to build a bike and ending up with three different styles.
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I think anything done would overstress the dramatic. It always comes down to ratings. The more shocking the higher they seem to go. But at least the pitmasters show has a air to feeling like a legit show in the judging.
That is one that I enjoy when it comes on Sat nights, or any other day it comes on.
I am convinced none of these reality series will ever be the same. Seems there always has to be problems along the way that most probably could have been avoided.
Tried that Vegas Rat Rod show afterward, nice possible fake tits on the intern with guys staring down her shirt when they are working. Same recipe though, get a couple mikeys that dont do **** but keep people wondering what they are doing there.
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I am convinced none of these reality series will ever be the same. Seems there always has to be problems along the way that most probably could have been avoided.
Tried that Vegas Rat Rod show afterward, nice possible fake tits on the intern with guys staring down her shirt when they are working. Same recipe though, get a couple mikeys that dont do **** but keep people wondering what they are doing there.
Characters are too dramatically amped. You don't get the validity of some of the better automotive series. You'd think out of all shadowing the build crews over the projects that the footage would seem more raw, realistic. It also seems so overly scripted.
