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PAMD · Senior Member

"Company Bonding" video post by Junior

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

They would've have to done alot to be using that shop again.....

Sept 2011

PAMD · Senior Member

Here's that video, hammer...

BTW: I'd like to shake Mustie1's hand; gotta admit, he's got a set!!

It still amazes me at how you're able to find this material, Mope; Kojak doesn't hold a candle to you!

I emailed a friend with a Youtube account, who is contacting Mustie1, and asking him to join the forum. I'll enjoy hearing what he has to say, as he has one damn cool Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/mustie1

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Checked out some other vids from you tube user mustie1's from mope's post above. He has private footage of PJD and current OCC locations. Kinda creepy like a stalker driving through the lot at PJD. Guess it didn't help having the security gate tore the heck up from prank week. This guy has got to be trespassing at a minimum. But like a car wreck I couldn't stop watching. Noticed a recent shot of PJD has no company banner hanging from the building like we see shown in show footage. Wonder if they remove it when not filming to discourage whack jobs from showing up on their doorstep? confuse

Izzy Ryder · Senior Member

Sr did ride in the country with the crew before. It was in one episode shortly after Jr left to go on his own. They had a picnic\barbecuer and he announced that he appreciated all of them and despite the bad economy and slowing business, OCC was staying open and going full speed ahead.

In one episode last season, Sr mentioned he was renovating the old building to ready it for sale. He's probably holding onto it now just in case they need to downsize after the show ends.

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Saturday 8th of December 2012 11:02:04 AM

PAMD · Senior Member

Latest PJD pict (copied from Instagram, so I had to do a screen grab) I notice that their cans are parked in first-class seating on an Airbus, and not in the caboose....

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dahammer_57 · Senior Member

What are the chances we'll see Sr. riding together with the OCC build crew. Slim to none I would guess. Jr you are a class act. No wonder your team seems happy.

Izzy Ryder · Senior Member

dahammer_57 wrote:
I meant riding together on the plane to Vegas with the OCC build crew -

We might be surprised to see the OCC crew in Vegas this year.

I also wonder why the PJD guys were congregating at the old OCC hq in that video. PJD's shop is large enough for them to begin their ride and all the bikes are stored there anyway... I think.

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Saturday 8th of December 2012 03:52:48 PM

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Saturday 8th of December 2012 03:55:55 PM

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

I meant riding together on the plane to Vegas with the OCC build crew -

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Izzy Ryder wrote:
In one episode last season, Sr mentioned he was renovating the old building to ready it for sale. He's probably holding onto it now just in case they need to downsize after the show ends.

Looks like the building was sold last year 12/15/2011 to a company named PPDMC LLC for $600,000. Could be another Senior shell company but Mustie1's most recent drive by video shows a company actively occupying the property. See it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsF1sgvvxQA&list=UUcSeeATlWJJbXpOZRYOfaDg&index=6

Also appears Senior shuffled ownership of the property around a couple times over the years, see info here:

http://propertydata.orangecountygov.com/imate/propdetail.aspx?swis=334289&printkey=02600000010772000000

ghostmonkey · Guru

Izzy Ryder wrote:
Sr did ride in the country with the crew before. It was in one episode shortly after Jr left to go on his own. They had a picnic\barbecuer and he announced that he appreciated all of them and despite the bad economy and slowing business, OCC was staying open and going full speed ahead.
In one episode last season, Sr mentioned he was renovating the old building to ready it for sale. He's probably holding onto it now just in case they need to downsize after the show ends.

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Saturday 8th of December 2012 11:02:04 AM

Wasn't that just another Jr traah fest?

PAMD · Senior Member

FYI: "Mustie 1" responded to my friends Youtube message, and has joined the forum. This should be very interesting!! I was also told to check out this video, another of Mustie 1's offerings:

Izzy Ryder · Senior Member

ghostmonkey wrote:
Izzy Ryder wrote:
Sr did ride in the country with the crew before. It was in one episode shortly after Jr left to go on his own. They had a picnic\barbecuer and he announced that he appreciated all of them and despite the bad economy and slowing business, OCC was staying open and going full speed ahead.
In one episode last season, Sr mentioned he was renovating the old building to ready it for sale. He's probably holding onto it now just in case they need to downsize after the show ends.

-- Edited by Izzy Ryder on Saturday 8th of December 2012 11:02:04 AM
Wasn't that just another Jr traah fest?

I don't remember it that way, but I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in season one of "Jr vs Sr". I think the crew were concerned because of Jr leaving them like that and what would become of the customizing business because of his abrupt vacancy. I think many of them felt he abandoned them and failed them as a member of the team.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

I look forward to hearing his take on the show/shops. After all he has been so close he could off slapped some sense into them. biggrin

Not to mention he appears to be quite a Renaissance man himself as well.

-- Edited by dahammer_57 on Sunday 9th of December 2012 11:48:38 PM

PAMD · Senior Member

I logged-on for three short sessions yesterday, and noticed him on two of those times. I really would like to see/hear how that Schwinn turned out. He's got some other kick-assed projects on his channel as well. Thanks Hammer and Mope for bringing his channel to the forefront.

The sad thing is that I'd bet money we'll see more fabrication from Mustie1's shop, than from PJD, OCC, ASS (how apropos), and GMG combined.

ghostmonkey · Guru

PAMD wrote:
I logged-on for three short sessions yesterday, and noticed him on two of those times. I really would like to see/hear how that Schwinn turned out. He's got some other kick-assed projects on his channel as well. Thanks Hammer and Mope for bringing his channel to the forefront.
The sad thing is that I'd bet money we'll see more fabrication from Mustie1's shop, than from PJD, OCC, ASS (how apropos), and GMG combined.

LOL Yep.

anotheridiot · Guru

dahammer_57 wrote:
Checked out some other vids from you tube user mustie1's from mope's post above. He has private footage of PJD and current OCC locations. Kinda creepy like a stalker driving through the lot at PJD. Guess it didn't help having the security gate tore the heck up from prank week. This guy has got to be trespassing at a minimum. But like a car wreck I couldn't stop watching. Noticed a recent shot of PJD has no company banner hanging from the building like we see shown in show footage. Wonder if they remove it when not filming to discourage whack jobs from showing up on their doorstep?

I keep telling you that was a Discovery network set. Getting thrown off a set means getting thrown off a set.

I guess Jr is now a tenant at one of his fathers vacant shops. What an ******* Sr is huh?

Must be why jr and sr did another bike for a 45 day build.

1Moparsick0 · Senior Member

Do you think it might've been the production bike frame being knocked over by the production crew, an Paulie could possibly have flipped out on them. That happened at O.C.C. during the first season.

ghostmonkey · Guru

anotheridiot wrote:
I keep telling you that was a Discovery network set. Getting thrown off a set means getting thrown off a set.
I guess Jr is now a tenant at one of his fathers vacant shops. What an ******* Sr is huh?
Must be why jr and sr did another bike for a 45 day build.

Yep just like Sr rents the WHQ, so what? And the buildings are no longer Sr's.

anotheridiot · Guru

you do realize when the world headquarters was built OCC was a publicly owned company dont you? There were a board of directors telling sr and jr what to do and where to go make appearances right? They did that so sr and jr could get the capital to do what they planned to do with production bikes. After jr's panties got in a bunch sr has been doing what he can to get his property and company back.

Sr was ready to move back into an old building he still owned if the bank didnt work out a deal with them right?

You dont see that as him owning the rest of his old buildings?

ghostmonkey · Guru

anotheridiot wrote:
you do realize when the world headquarters was built OCC was a publicly owned company dont you? There were a board of directors telling sr and jr what to do and where to go make appearances right? They did that so sr and jr could get the capital to do what they planned to do with production bikes. After jr's panties got in a bunch sr has been doing what he can to get his property and company back.

Sr was ready to move back into an old building he still owned if the bank didnt work out a deal with them right?

You dont see that as him owning the rest of his old buildings?

Well wasn't that just another great business move by Sr?? LMAO

rumple · Veteran Member

PAMD wrote:
Here's that video, hammer...

In that video, Mustie says it looks like somebody else owns the shop now (then he says "a metal fabrication company"). Wasn't one of the first scenes of the first show of last season about Senior touring that shop, noting that the roof had caved in, and planning on refurbishing it so OCC could move back in?

They only mentioned it that one time, but the episode definitely aired. Senior seemed to be acting and talking like it was a done deal.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

anotheridiot wrote:

I guess Jr is now a tenant at one of his fathers vacant shops. What an ******* Sr is huh?

confuse It never gets old pointing out how you don't even read the posts you respond to. The building occupied by a new tenant is the original OCC shop from the AC series start,27 Stone Castle Road,Rock Tavern, NY. It was sold December last year. PJD is leasing the building at 21 Stone Castle Road,Rock Tavern, NY - owned by Olori Brothers LLC not the Walrus. So no Jr. is not now a tenant at one of his fathers vacant shops. And yes what an ******* Sr is huh? Look it up if you like it's all public info online at Orange County.

anotheridiot wrote:

Must be why jr and sr did another bike for a 45 day build.

confuse And once again you haven't read what you are responding to. The 45 day Sr. Jr. build reference is an episode summary to the Post AC special American Chopper: Countdown to the End. They are reexamining the shows origin with the pilot episode Jet Bike Build 45 days before the Laconia (NH) Bike Week in June 2002. Not another Jr. - Sr. 45 day bike build.

If you have any questions before you reply and insert foot into mouth feel free to PM and I will do my best to explain what is actually being discussed. biggrin

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

anotheridiot wrote:
you do realize when the world headquarters was built OCC was a publicly owned company dont you? There were a board of directors telling sr and jr what to do and where to go make appearances right? They did that so sr and jr could get the capital to do what they planned to do with production bikes. After jr's panties got in a bunch sr has been doing what he can to get his property and company back.

Sr was ready to move back into an old building he still owned if the bank didnt work out a deal with them right?

You dont see that as him owning the rest of his old buildings?

Uhh...no OCC is a privately held company owned by Sr. - 80/20 Sr/Jr split at the time you are referencing. No public stock ever. He is the board of directors. He has many additional business holdings/partnerships as well incorporated under various LLC and LLP scenarios.

He was going to move back into an old building as a last resort after GE Commercial foreclosed on the Headquarters mortgage when OCC stopped making payments. They eventualy settled on an agreement with OCC relinquishing ownership of the property to Ge and Ge agreeing to allow OCC to continue occupation through a rental lease arrangement.

Much of what once was the OCC Empire has been liqudated in the last 2-3 years as Sr struggles to reinvent himself following Jr.'s departure and the lawsuit. It appears as though much of the troubled waters are behind him but it remains unclear wether OCC will flourish or flounder post American Chopper. confuse

jakemac · Senior Member

"NOAH ............... How long can you tread water ?" - Bill Cosby, (Himself)

rumple · Veteran Member

I don't know how Vinnie could stand that close to Mike A. without smacking him on that bald head... with Christian (who is starting to resemble Nosferatu, according to that pic).

Looks like Mike's hitting the cough syrup, from the looks of that bottle.

Why is Brendan pointing to that man's ear?

EDIT: I was already out in the yard, raking leaves, when I realized what that picture is about. (I needed to reload my coffee mug, anyway.)

They're each indicating how many tractors it would take to drag Senior away from a camera!

-- Edited by rumple on Saturday 15th of December 2012 12:27:45 PM

PAMD · Senior Member

I initially thought "Corn Husker's Lotion", but the black band at the base of the bottle is too narrow... (PS: isn't that Nick/Nosferatu??)

-- Edited by PAMD on Saturday 15th of December 2012 12:55:41 PM

PAMD · Senior Member

Spotted this on Vinnie DiMartino's Twitter feed:

AnitaLaLouise · Senior Member

Looks like Jaggermeister, so very similar to cough syrup. But more deadly.

I noticed in "The End" episode that the pic Jr twittered wasn't just PJD - it was both shops, riding into the wild blue yonder (going opposite directions, though).

anotheridiot · Guru

AnitaLaLouise wrote:
Looks like Jaggermeister, so very similar to cough syrup. But more deadly.

I noticed in "The End" episode that the pic Jr twittered wasn't just PJD - it was both shops, riding into the wild blue yonder (going opposite directions, though).

yeah, cool it was taped in the ironworks building, nice kid to allow that to happen huh, I take it that is half way between the two shops. Funny how a simple twitter pic leads to so much speculation.

rumple · Senior Member

PAMD wrote:
I initially thought "Corn Husker's Lotion", but the black band at the base of the bottle is too narrow...

God, I hope not. Last time I drank that stuff, it made me feel like slugs were crawling around in my belly. (But my intestines were remarkably soft and supple.)

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

More evidence that PJD exterior shop banner was displayed on building only when shooting the show. Recent photo (12/27) from PJD facebook.

dahammer_57 · Senior Member

Guess this explains it.

ghostmonkey · Guru

Sounds promising.